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Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:25 pm
by Mark Llew
The first photo of the teachers:

Back row: 1st on the left is Mr Pinkerton, 3rd is Mr Harrison, and 7th is Miss/Mrs Hall.
Front row: at the far right is Mrs Cleave.

One of the two tall women in the back row may be Mrs Gwyzdala, but I can't tell which one.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:31 pm
by Mark Llew
The 1st photo of the teachers:

Back row: 1st on the left is Mr Pinkerton, 3rd is Mr Harrison, and 7th is Miss/Mrs Hall.
Front row: at the far right is Mrs Cleave.

One of the two tall women in the back row is probably Mrs Gwyzdala, but I can't remember which.

If either of these photos is 1956/57, then Miss/Mrs Scarlett should be in it. But I don't see her, which suggest to me that either the photos are both post 1956/57 (after that Miss Scarlett was at Harrison) or she was absent that day.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:53 pm
by Al Darby
Ruth McBride is 2nd from the left, front row in first picture and last far right in 2nd picture, Sandra Scott is 4th from left, back row.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:25 pm
by Gloria Jones
Back row, 2nd from left, Knute Keir, 3rd from left Jim Little.
2nd row, 5th from left ? Hoare, 9th from left Sandra or Heather Marchment, 11th from left Jim McNiven.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 1:03 am
by Nancy534
It's great to be able to put names to some of the faces in the school pictures! I've never heard of "shift school". I'm guessing the teachers would only work one of those shifts each day? I think my dad may have started working at Wrigglesworth in January 1957, but I'm not positive. Maybe they had to hire more teachers halfway through the year because of the shift school? I think he began teaching in Port Credit in September 1958, so the Wrigglesworth pictures wouldn't be later than the 1957/58 school year. I have a very small individual school photo of him with the moustache that must have been taken at the time as the staff picture and it says "School Days 57-58" in the border of the photo.

It was sad to read about Miss Hume regularly using her ruler on little Grade One hands! I'm wondering if your mother knew this, Al, when she took you to her house to deliver the necklace? I only experienced the ruler once in Grade 6 in the mid-60's and my teacher was also a single woman near retirement. Times certainly have changed. My daughter went to Teacher's College last year and was having trouble as a student teacher with a boy in her high school class. I remember her telling me she had to be careful what she said to him when disciplining him because she'd been taught she must never "damage the student's self-esteem".

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 3:40 am
by Al Darby
Nancy534 wrote:[...]

It was sad to read about Miss Hume regularly using her ruler on little Grade One hands! I'm wondering if your mother knew this, Al, when she took you to her house to deliver the necklace? I only experienced the ruler once in Grade 6 in the mid-60's and my teacher was also a single woman near retirement. Times certainly have changed. My daughter went to Teacher's College last year and was having trouble as a student teacher with a boy in her high school class. I remember her telling me she had to be careful what she said to him when disciplining him because she'd been taught she must never "damage the student's self-esteem".

In my day, it was "Spare the Rod and Spoil the Child".

Can honestly say it didn't "damage" me and I didn't miss one year of Public School in getting the strap. Only Miss Hume used the ruler and it was by no means savage, just enough to get your attention (not all that sure it worked, in my case :bag: )

I personally think some of the brats I see running around today could use a whole lot more discipline.

Oh … my Mother knew and approved. If I got "punished" it was because I'd transgressed. I was way better off than some of my mates, who also got strapped at home it they mucked up in school.

It seems to me as part of the group called "Primates" man has lost touch with some basic values. Children need to grow up knowing some boundaries and as a serial offender, I know, I tested the boundaries daily, but I learned what was acceptable and what was not. Nobody would ever accuse me of having suffered for that "training". Certainly not me. :bolt: :shit:

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 5:28 pm
by Scooter1
Hi Nancy, let's see if my memory is working, I will give you my recall on the staff pictures and my best guess:
The one with the crossing guard top right, I can not recall his name, but spoke to him everyday.
Top Far Left, Mr. Hughes (Custodian), Mr. Charlie Pinkerton, Mr. Catlin, Mr. Ken Harrison, Mrs. Vera McDonald, Mr. Byng, ?, Miss Hall. ?, Miss Johnson
First Row far left, Mrs. Bilsborrow, Miss McBride, ? , Mr. Kinrade, ?, Mrs. Finlay

Other Staff picture: Mr. Harrison,Mr. Byng, ?, Miss Scott, Mrs. Moffat, ?, Mr. Catlin, Mr. Pinkerton
First Row, ?, Mrs. McEachern, Mrs. Taylor, Mrs. Bilsborrow, Miss Hall, Miss McBride

I know a few in the students picture, but getting my brother, Dave Kentner to assist me, will post soon.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:07 pm
by Petitbois
In the staff picture (#3): back row, from the right:
Charlie Pinkerton
Mr. Catlin, who was later the vp at Centennial when my sister went there
Mr. Scott, who may have taught grade 7 when I was in Grade 8.(though Mr. Pinkerton was still there). I remember Teresa Scott (no relation) possibly being in his class. But perhaps it was a younger grade. I recall two things about him, in addition to his red hair:

1. during a recess conversation, he was talking with Teresa and me and some others. (The girls all liked him). Teresa told him about a hide and seek type game we played on our street (Maple Avenue east) after dark, with Larry and Marty Prucyk, Jan Popeil, Linda and Roy Foster, Davey Scott, Jimmy McIllraithe, my brother Gord, Teresa and I, that we called 'Ghosts'. Mr. Scott made fun of the kid-sounding name, and I recall being embarrassed at his remarks, though I loved the chance for Teresa and I to hide in the bushes together.

2. sometime in grades 6-8, staff found some kind of girlie magazine or a racey novel on school property somewhere. All of the intermediate boys were herded into a classroom. I remember Mr. Kinraide and Mr. Scott laying the lecture on us, though most of us didn't know what they were talking about, since they were rather vague about what they had found.
Mr. Scott used this phrase, that I have never forgotten, as a warning about the 'danger' of such porn materials: "A man of passion rides a wild horse."
I had no clue what he was talking about, and most of my classmates likewise missed the warning. Years later, in a similar situation in my own classroom/school, the phrase came to me as I spoke to my grade 8 boys about a Penthouse found in a desk or locker.

In the class picture of Mr. Byng's class:
back row, 3rd and 2nd from the right: Jim Thompson and Dave McNally
mid row, far right: Paul Hale
Is Larry Prucyk in that picture? I played a lot with him, but I can't spot him.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:51 pm
by Petitbois
Mr. Hughes, the custodian, was a nice older man.
He kept the school in great shape, and I always remember him in his heavy gray sweater.
When I was in Grade 8, (and maybe in grade 7 too) I was one of the guys that Mr. Kinraide would pick to go out and help him with yard work on the school grounds, since I was quick to have my assignments done.

Sometimes we'd help him unload boxes of school supplies in the supply cupboard ("stock room"), but I liked best those spring/early summer days when I'd be given the lawn mower, and I'd cut grass, particularly fun when it was outside my own classroom.

I recall going back to the boiler room when the grass was finished, where he'd give me a cold pop, before I returned to class.

Even back then, classes would be sent outside periodically to clean up the yard litter.
In grade 7, we boys were out doing a sweep of the garbage outside our side of the school. I think it was Bill Handy who caught a good-sized garter snake by the fence, and thought it would be fun to bring it into our classroom in the round metal can that sat under the pencil sharpener.

We all came back in and there was an excited buzz that must have made Mr. Pinkerton suspicious that something was afoot.
At some point in the lesson, when a piece of his chalk broke, he walked back to throw it in the garbage. As he did so, he saw the snake writhing in the can, trying to escape. I can still see him jump at the unexpected visitor.
Our class exploded in laughter, and since I had a reputation for some hijinks, he assumed it was me who brought in the snake. The more I protested my innocence, the louder the class laughed, and Mr. P was more convinced he had the culprit.

What he didn't know was that, though I was one of the biggest boys in the class, I was afraid of snakes. He asked me to take the snake back outside. I reached for the garbage can as everyone laughed even louder, but he said, " Leave the can. Take the snake!"

With my reputation with the other boys on the line, I gingerly picked it up and marched out of class. By the time I had reached the boys washroom, halfway down the hall, I had overcome my revulsion at having to hold it. Remember how the washroom had an entrance from the hall but also an exterior door, which we used to exit the building at recess?
On the terrazzo washroom floor, I played with the snake for a while, holding its tail as it squirmed on the slippery floor, then took it outside to release it.

Though I'm not a snake fancier to this day, that was a turning point of sorts for me.

Years later, in my own grade 8 class at Earnscliffe School in Bramalea, a girl in the class said her brother had a Burmese python, and would be willing to bring it in to class. It was mid winter, and I set a date, with the older brother to arrive when his high school class got out, before our middle school dismissal.

He checked in with the office and arrived at our classroom. The snake was wrapped in a towel in a phys. ed. bag, and I introduced him as Stephanie's brother, but didn't say what he was going to talk about.
He set the bag on the desk of a girl at the front, and his 'introduction' was a simple, "Well, I guess I better bring it out." Leaving the class, of course, with no clue of what was about to happen.

Finding the snake's head, he began to slowly pull the six foot snake out of the bag. It seemed like there was no end to the snake, and all hell broke loose. The girl whose desk was being used quickly ran from the room, but once he wrapped it around his neck, they were very interested in his presentation.

At some point I noticed that Paul C. wasn't in his seat. I turned to see him standing on an extra desk against the back wall, his face deathly white, petrified, unable to move. He was repeating grade 8, and a self-proclaimed 'tough guy', but his reputation was tarnished after that incident. Though Paul never participated, everyone else ended up wanting to pet or hold the snake, fascinated by the beautiful mottled reptile.

To finish off the day, being a S.D. at heart, I called the office and asked for the female principal to come to my class, knowing she shared Paul's feelings for reptiles. Another memorable moment when she arrived, and I flashed back to Mr. Pinkerton's class so long ago....

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:18 am
by John_Bailey
"A man of passion rides a wild horse."
and even though she dyes here hair
the old gray mare isn't what she used to be.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:09 am
by Duffers43
The girl on the left in the front row is Ann Lorraine Noble. She was my neighbour, but behind me in school. I went to Chapel Street School . Ann Lorraine's father owned Georgetown dairy and had moved to Guelph Street across from Wrigglesworth School. i am thinking the picture might be in 1956-57 as she wasn't that far behind me. Some of the faces are familiar but I haven't been able to put a name to them yet.
I will keep trying.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:32 am
by mjmward
From my memory
top row...2nd from the left..K Keir,Jim Little,Lenard Hume,Jerry?
2nd row...2nd from left... Dave Kentner,Caroline Farnell, Jane Hoare,? Jackie Morrow.
1st row... Marsha ?, Linda Saunders,? Carole Ann Barber,
Does that tweek any memories.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 12:59 pm
by mjmward
Just came to me that it is Jerry Mc Crea

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:19 pm
by andyww
I should be able to help out with some of the locations as I grew up in that area and had friends who lived in those houses.
Picture #7 was taken in the back yard of the Hume house. The brick wall behind it is the Bell Telephone building. The Steif family moved in there in the early 60's and I believe the house was torn down in the late 60's.
Picure #9 looks like the porch of the second house from the church. The one that is currently a parking lot.
Picture #10 the Hume house is the white house in the background. You can also see the wall of the Bell Telephone building.
Picture #11 is the same direction as #10 with James Street in the background, but at a different angle. The light coloured building on the right is MacKenzie Lumber's Store. On the left you can see Fred Maveal's Garage.
The Whan family lived in that house after you moved. Rev. Whan was minister at the Baptist church. I moved in the house behind that house on Draper St. in 64.
The Mackenzie Building was converted to offices and apartments.

Andy

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:01 pm
by Nancy534
Thanks Andy for the information about the photos of the neighbourhood where we lived. Would you happen to know the name of the Baptist Church? Do you remember when the brick house with the front porch, that once stood two doors from the church, was torn down? Did Reverend Whan move into that house (which is now a Bell parking lot) or the house that is beside the church? I'm thinking we probably lived upstairs in the house with the porch since it's the one that appears most often in our photos. Does anyone remember which of the two houses was Dr. McAllister's residence and which was his medical office?

Thanks also to David Smallwood and Dave Cox for sending me the following copy of the Grade 6 Wrigglesworth class picture from the 1957/58 school year. My father's picture in the top left corner is the small one I have that says "School Days 57-58":

Image

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:03 pm
by Petitbois
These are the names I can remember for this grade 6 class. A big class, with 34 kids! I can name 29 of them.
Where I have left question marks, I either don't remember the missing given or surname, or I'm unsure of the name I put there.
A number of these people are still in town. Maybe they can help fill in the missing names.
I went through my grade 9 yearbook, trying to figure out the unknowns, but couldn't find a matching face for those five.
I have the grade 7 photo, Mr. Pinkerton's class. Fifteen of us from Mr. Byng's class were in the grade 7 shot, an indication of the drainoff to Harrison and Park schools- but none of the five missing names below.

Back Row:
1. Mr. Byng, 2. Margaret ? 3. David Smallwood, 4. Penny ?. 5. Danny Sweeney 6. Art Hoekstra 7. Mary McNamara 8. Ron Little 9. Lynda Kentner

3rd Row:
1. Jim Richardson 2. Alan Thompson 3. Judy Nash 4. Dave Cox 5. Keith Allen 6. Beryle Bailey 7. ??? 8. Mary McClintock 9. Larry Allan

2nd Row:
1. ? Mathers?? 2. Jackie Lince 3. Cathy Saxe 4. Sandra Marchment 5. Bill Handy 6. Jeanette Davies 7. Lynn Ritchie 8. Jackie Louth 9. Pat Bowman

Front Row:
1. Peter Clark 2. John Finlay 3. Bruce Fendley 4. Jill Runham 5. Linda Hyde 6. Ellen Biehn 7. Stewart Saxe 8. Diane???

PB

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 3:10 pm
by mjmward
WHY DO I ONLY SEE HALF OF THE PICTURE????

Ron Richardson is Jim, Ron is younger

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:03 pm
by Al Darby
mjmward wrote:WHY DO I ONLY SEE HALF OF THE PICTURE????

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Is it still happening?

Which half? Top / Bottom / Left / Right????

Which Browser are you using? What's your screen size and resolution?

Can you do a <Screen Print> and publish that?

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:09 pm
by mjmward
ALL I AM RECEIVING IS THE LEFT SIDE AL. BUT I AM NO HELP TO YOU TO FIX IT ALL I KNOW IS HOW TO TURN IT ON AND OFF.

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:14 pm
by Mark Llew
mjmward wrote:ALL I AM RECEIVING IS THE LEFT SIDE AL. BUT I AM NO HELP TO YOU TO FIX IT ALL I KNOW IS HOW TO TURN IT ON AND OFF.

I was seeing the same thing until I expanded my browser window to fill the screen (click middle box in upper right corner)

Maybe that'll help you too !

mark

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:21 pm
by Petitbois
mjmward wrote:WHY DO I ONLY SEE HALF OF THE PICTURE????

Ron Richardson is Jim, Ron is younger

Thanks, I corrected the error.... must be old age....

As to seeing only half the picture:
It's showing full on my computer screen, but if I increase the font size substantially while in the browser, the right side of the picture begins to cut off the more I bump the font bigger.
Of course, the only reason for bumping the size up is because of old age....
Not that you would be having any trouble seeing it....
Since you got your glasses back from that pub I found them in...
Way back....

Given your proximity to the Arctic Circle, it's more likely to be because that 16 gauge extension cord/dsl cable that has to run in to Bruce Mines from Sudbury or Thunder Bay or Wawa doesn't have enough power to send the complete image to your house.... or cabin... or igloo...... or lean-to....

Peeb

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:10 pm
by Scooter1
Dave, is it Diane Reid, Wayne's sister first row far right.?

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:20 pm
by Petitbois
Scooter1 wrote:Dave, is it Diane Reid, Wayne's sister first row far right.?


I think you're right, Don.
Now I'll try to find her in the yearbook to confirm.
But what about you ladies: do you agree?
PB

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:48 pm
by mjmward
NO LUCK MARK THANKS

Re: Georgetown - 1950's (Wrigglesworth P.S., Dr. McAllister)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:11 pm
by Scooter1
Hi Mary Jane,
I was having the same problem. But found down in the lower riht there was a magnifying glass with a drop down arrow. When you click the arrow you get various different %s, you can view it in a lower % like 75 or 50 and get the entire picture, good luck.
Don